Bluetooth PAN already exists which makes the whole name confusing. Sure it's not for peripheral connection, it's for actual networking (IPv4 comms). These two want to sell a PAN that isn't a PAN?? IF anything it should be Wireless USB, and certainly should be UWB-based.Wireless USB would leverage the existing massive support for USB, probably just with a different PHY (with OS extensions to provide for pairing). 
Bluetooth has been a dog (especially Toshiba) but it's now actually usable.
It's unclear what actual protocols will be used for this new 'standard' but it looks like 802.11 - this can't be good.
8 is one more than a piconet?
Cliffside, I hope, will be a darn sight more than BlueFule. Here's why: The stupid mobil phone OSs, won't let you do practical jobbys like a load of file transfers. You have to find a 3rd party to manage your mess for you. I hate BREW. I shelled out big for a RIM BB International 8830, prior to Iphone. The bloody BlueShite is useless! Dropped it with the USB/charger adapter plugged (it broke), and then there's NO way to transfer the voluminous Address Book. The BlueFly will only dart your snaps and jigs! I hope EVERY gadget that floggs Cliffside, will have ALL the usage profiles, you'd expect, without calling a plumber! This crap doesn't fly at MI-5, does it? Piss on BlueTeeth, or on the RIM.
Bluetooth PAN already exists which makes the whole name confusing. Sure it's not for peripheral connection, it's for actual networking (IPv4 comms). These two want to sell a PAN that isn't a PAN?? IF anything it should be Wireless USB, and certainly should be UWB-based.Wireless USB would leverage the existing massive support for USB, probably just with a different PHY (with OS extensions to provide for pairing). 
Bluetooth has been a dog (especially Toshiba) but it's now actually usable.
It's unclear what actual protocols will be used for this new 'standard' but it looks like 802.11 - this can't be good.
Two empty tin cans and a length of string are a serious threat to Bluetooth.
8 is one more than a piconet?
Cliffside, I hope, will be a darn sight more than BlueFule. Here's why: The stupid mobil phone OSs, won't let you do practical jobbys like a load of file transfers. You have to find a 3rd party to manage your mess for you. I hate BREW. I shelled out big for a RIM BB International 8830, prior to Iphone. The bloody BlueShite is useless! Dropped it with the USB/charger adapter plugged (it broke), and then there's NO way to transfer the voluminous Address Book. The BlueFly will only dart your snaps and jigs! I hope EVERY gadget that floggs Cliffside, will have ALL the usage profiles, you'd expect, without calling a plumber! This crap doesn't fly at MI-5, does it? Piss on BlueTeeth, or on the RIM.