why did you not post that this card is 256-bit? is it because it will make the 9600gt a good card? seems overpromoting an ati product gives you also the right ot lie (or intentionally hide) about actual specs

ATI cards have *always* delivered superior graphics rendering quality, its been the mainstay of their marketing pitch for years. Nvidia have always focused on framerates, even ones way over te 25 fps your eye can see and made this their marketing angle.

The truth is the 3870x2 now delivers the highest fps and 3dmark scores coupled with the best graphics rendering quality and guess what its also better at HD video playback.

There is now only one choice for the highest quality and best framerates and its ATI. 

If you're happy to buy second best and pay more for it as well, then I am sure you'll delighted with the latest Nvidia heat pumping power munching dinosaur.

Remember 24 frames/sec is all you can see, anything much above this is a waste of power and simply marketing spiel.

If your desparate/stupid enough for your 300 frames/sec first person shooter, then Nvidia will take your money (and a lot of it too).

If you want the finest visual gaming experience, then buy ATI and keep the change, saving double on the electricity meter into the bargain.


Ok people really AMD managed to kick Intel’s ass for a while in 2006 and start of 2007 and AMD was working with 89 bill while Intel was working with 890 bill Intel was just being greedy for a while and wasn’t reinvesting and was just haemorrhaging money into the owners pockets then Intel turned around and looked at what AMD was doing then they started investing there money so AMD really is the better company but Itell dose offer better performance now no doubt I must say I am Intel all the way atm but if someone gave me solid prove that AMD had came out with a better processor I would be there

Well ATI and AMD Ooooo such a bad move I must say spending all that money when they were just getting ahead I don’t think they are going to make any head room in the next 6 years I think that’s if they don’t go bankrupt with Itell Bringing out its flag ship proccessor the QX9650 with the 45nm process the future isn’t looking bright for AMD or ATI because I think AMD’s just went over to the 65nm process

Hummm....

I’m sorry personally I think people are stupid for sticking to one brand...

I have been researching this for 2 months here’s the short version of graphics cards in 2008 

ATI offers better video playback and at low resolution eg 1280x1024 ATI can offers better frame rates and with all the anti alising off in 3D graphics so if you are using a 15 to a 19inch screen and you don’t mind the affects down ATI is better for you 

Now if you want to play with a 22ich screen and up with all the affects up to max then NVIDIA is for you and also if you don’t mind taking up a bit more of your processor while watching high def videos

Personal I am going to be buying a 24inch screen soon so I’m going to be buying a NVIDIA graphic 

just go look it up your self if you dont agree

Kevin just wrote a HOLE LOTTA CRAP, the fact is the ATI 3870 x2 is THE MOST POWERFUL GRAPHICS CARD ON THE MARKET!!!! and for only $600 n.z. its a steal!! considering the 8800gtx is still on the market for $800

What were you thinking?
Do you reserch what you write?
Or do you just write?

ATI 3870 x2 is THE MOST POWERFUL GRAPHICS CARD ON THE MARKET!!!!

This is one of the most bias articles I have read. The fact of the matter is once AMD bought ati they single handedly destroyed the name and quality of Ati's products. I have no idea how AMD manages to stay in business. It seems like they're always tripping over their own feet trying to just keep up with intel and Nvidia. Its to bad because before AMD purchased Ati, Ati had some really nice products and stayed on top of nvidia keeping the market fresh with new ideas. Now there is no more innovation because AMD can not compete worth a damn to force the development of new products. Thats the truth so ya this new nvidia card is not what it could be but thats because it does not have to be anything special to beat AMD's pile of junk. Get your stuff strait AMD!!

I'm an NV fanboy...boo hoo...stop cawing NV liers...it hurtsis my feewings...NV nevwer lies...you are biased...boo hoo

Thats one of the worst written articles I've ever read. You should be fired. Granted, I agree with most of what you say, its very unprofessional.

I don't understand something, is this information based on leaked details from NV journalists pre-launch briefing? When was that event if I may ask?

By dissing Nvidia, Charlie pointed himself out already some ATI's weaknesses too which doesn't make ATI look any better really.

As for the price, it's common with EVERY vendor or manufacturer to rip off European customers. Therefore the 9600GT might very well be the $200 in US but of course prices are much higher in Europe. So don't try to tell that's some Nvidia only case.

Oh STFU already. Charlie is doing a great job. And although you cand deny his ATI fanboyism he is telling the truth. With an aggresive manner against nvidia as the arrogant SOBs deserve, but the truth nevertheless. Oh i so much want to see nvidias butt getting kicked this year once they release their power hog of a graphics card the GT200.

aww the 9600... the little brother of then 9700(greatest card ever made). lol as nvidia is nearing the 9x00 series ati is nearing thr 4x00s lol. ati 4600 hd and the nvidia 9800


It's good advice to clean through all the FUD surrounding video cards. I'll just wait until the only reputable video card site, HardOCP, tests a retail version of the card. Before you try to stand up for your sire of choice, read this: http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQ2MSwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

I wonder why nvidia/ati don't use that console trick and put a scaler in that just expands the lowres picture to HD resolution, making it seem it's more than it is.
And that would also, when designed cleverly, work as a primitive anti-alias system. 
Think of the bogus ads/literature they could release? 
'our card has crysis running at 1080P running at 60FPS!! (note: iScaled resolution)'

I bet ya with something like this card and a good enough rig, it still wont be able to run the games to come properly in the next 12 months. Im sick of being short of cash cos the PC gaming alley is soo dam expensive. in not a console fanboy, i dont even have a console. But im understanding why ppl are going to consoles, even if you run games on the same resolution as consoles, it still wont garuntee standard 50 fps (60fps in us) gaming. PS3 here i come you cheap, glorious whore! 
ps. so what now every subversion release of dx there is gonna be a new platform of cards???

Truth like it is. Thank you INQUIRER, I just wish to know if there’s a chance for the GeForce 9600 to hit the market on AGP FORM. Since ATI will deliver via their partners, the 3850 AGP. ALL PCIe owners NO COMMENTS PLEASE, It does not affect you so please save it.

Good jorb on the bias Charlie. I guess people are so hard up for writers they will let anyone publish a "news" story on the internet. Please refrain from posting news about Nvidia products and stick your ATI love, all you do is complain and drag the news out.... This would have been alot easier to read if someone else wrote it who didn't want to inject their bias.

1. Nvidia said $449-499 product 
2. It turned out to be $449-499 product
=Nvidia lied about that price?
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About that Geforce 9600 GT price. Now we have one shop that has them listed. This tells us everything about will be that cards typical price when this card will launch 10 days from today? Perhaps you are little bit jumping on to conclusions.
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There are few reviews out there suggesting that it will be very close to HD3870 512 on performance. Too early to say from those.
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Good to see you writing the truth, rather than spewing out Nvidia propaganda or fanboy rhetoric. And true, the 8600 was such a failure i would place it in the 'low range videocard' section. Even the midrange deserves better!