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Alas Poor Nvidia..RIP

Anyway the next couple of years is going to see Nvidia between a rock and a hard place.
Seems there plan to keep SLI to themselves only for use on their chipset motherboards has rebounded BIG TIME. 
Intel may well deny them the rights to make chipsets for forthcoming Nehalem processor and consequently SLI and Nvidia chipsets would be confined to AMD processors which at the moment are second rate.
So they will take a big market share hit which should soften them up considerably by the time that Intel releases its own discrete graphics card based on larabee...BY BY Nvdia.

posted by : technogiant, 27 February 2008 Complain about this comment
AA ATI'S Problem??

Re Qoute "AA is ATI's problem
For all of you complaining about highlighting ATI's weakness, it is ATI's problem and of course if Nvidia does not have that weakness, it is better. And I'm sure everyone will use AA whenever they can as it gives you a much smoother picture."

At high resolutions which the ATI cards are best at you do not need AA as the image quality is so fine. Its only at the lower resolutions where Nvidia are better that you need AA to disguise the blockyness.

Most sensible gamers run there games at the highest resolution they can.

posted by : technogiant, 27 February 2008 Complain about this comment
ATI

I don't think AA is totally ATI's problem. The ATI cards handle AA differently than the nvidia cards do, and games have to be designed to use it correctly for ATI. Thats why so many games favor Nvidia in benchmarks... because Nvidia makes their "deals" with these game companies to favor nvidia cards (all the stupid annoying logos you see when you start a game).

As you notice, Nvidia has yet to add directx 10.1 support which standardizes how AA is handled. They are also milking their cutomers for every last dime in upgrade they can.

When I spend over $200 on a new video card, it dang well better have the latest official directx support in it. Which Nvidia doesn't, and probably won't for a long time.

posted by : Jeff, 27 February 2008 Complain about this comment
AA is ATI's problem

For all of you complaining about highlighting ATI's weakness, it is ATI's problem and of course if Nvidia does not have that weakness, it is better. And I'm sure everyone will use AA whenever they can as it gives you a much smoother picture.

So too bad for ATI, they should just fix their problem or be bashed by reviewers. Nobody defended Nvidia when it was having problems with HDR + AA...

posted by : az, 26 February 2008 Complain about this comment
*yawn*

Regardless of what card beats NVidia, the whole comparison is moot.
NVidia has been squeezing every cent they can out of the current lineup for what, 2 years? It's called Sandbagging, I'm pretty sure.
In fact, even after that time, they're still making money from the same cards and ATI has finally "caught up".
I'm sure all the time they had to party and develop, has something left in store. But, what would ATI have for a response? If NVidia actually released something they've been fine-tuning for 2 years, ATI would shit eggrolls. 
I wouldn't doubt that right now they're letting them enjoy some much-needed competition before dropping a deuce in their wheaties.

posted by : Mat, 26 February 2008 Complain about this comment
ATI Nvidia

This is the reason I quit buying Nvidia for my self and the people that I build Machines for.
Over the years I have seen Nvidia do some things that they got caught doing, and here again it is a weighted test. 
When I set up two machines ,one Nvidia and one ATI and let the users see what I mean about the picture,even if the Nvidia's speed is a few frames faster they will take the ATI! You can have the Nvidia cards , I will never buy another one after getting bit by one of there tricks, I just can not trust them to there word.

posted by : Daedalus, 26 February 2008 Complain about this comment
QUALITY

I usually can count on you guys to link to quality reviews, but the ATI v Nvidia article you linked to is quite poor.

posted by : frank, 26 February 2008 Complain about this comment
ATI vs Nvidia BIASED REVIEW

I’d like to start by saying that the SLI results were very good and Nvidia have obviously sort the SLI scaling problems out and that bodes well for the remaining 9000 series.

The ATI vs Nvidia comparisons were very biased against ATI.
It has been consistently shown that the latest ATI cards are better at higher resolutions and do not like AA. Its almost like these test were deliberately done to trip up the ATI cards. The only time they dont use AA is at lower resolutions where the ATI cards dont perform well anyway.
At higher resolutions where the ATI cards would be expected to shine the testers scupper their performance by invariably using AA.

posted by : technogiant, 26 February 2008 Complain about this comment
Where's the rest of the tests?

Testing 2 games, and specifically leaving out the shader heavy ones?

Seems a little pre-determined what the article is trying to showing. Interstingly, the GTS-512 also get blown away often by a wider margin, but no mention of the GF8800GTX/Ultra results despite using it in the pricing scale.

It's hard to say anyone ownz as long as you need to limit the test to show that. 

Also any review/reviewer that is still surprised that 3Dmark doesn't match up with game test results leave me wondering where they've been for the past 3-4 years?

Also explain to me how that review doesn't also make the GF9600GT look the equal to the HD3850 in it's group of tests, surprisingly with the AMD card taking the OpenGL Quake Wars.

Guess the you must be playing old maid or granny-style Euchre where there isn't a 'no-trump' call and you need to pick one even if there isn't an obvious call.

Main thing as always, look at the game(s) you play and then buy the best performer there.

posted by : Knightshader, 26 February 2008 Complain about this comment
nvidia owns

atm Nvidia is powning anything, 2 mid range cards, are beating ATI's flagship model LOL. I think Nvidia are doing well to stay 1 step ahead of ATI

Nvidia and intel are enjoying the same sucsess, but not because of better engineering, product placment. the competing companies cant even take a dump in the right way without screwing it up, once Dammit get phenom out, with 100% quality and reliability, and the spider platform, and a decent card, then I would like to see how intel/nvidia are doing, but at the moment times are good, for chippzilla and graphzilla
Mr HSU is sitting in his mansion, by the pool with a pinacolata, otelini is taking dating lessons or something who knows what these billionaires get up to in the good times.
Id like to see MTV cribbs do a piece on the owners of the big silicon co's, and M/soft ect, they must have some bueaties

posted by : stewart, 26 February 2008 Complain about this comment
Nvidia Vs ATI

No trumps here...pretty close match...
Sli barely beats the radeon with full 4AA and 16 AF, the testers do not do a thorough testing...
everyone knows that is the radeon arch weakness...besides the fact that most users dont use over 4AA and 4AF so lets see alot more benches.
Radeons have the most raw power...
turn up the effects for nvidia to catches up

posted by : Bryan, 25 February 2008 Complain about this comment

9600GT SLI trumps HD3870X2

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