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Waste of time

It seems that UKUUG confuse consensus with unanimity.

From the ISO/IEC JCT1 directives:

Note: Consensus is defined as general agreement, characterised by the absence of sustained opposition to substantial
issues by any important part of the concerned interests and by a process that involves seeking to take into account the views
of all parties concerned and to reconcile any conflicting arguments. Consensus need not imply unanimity. (ISO/IEC Guide
2:1996)]

posted by : hAl, 10 June 2008 Complain about this comment
Trying to legislate against the tide

All this resistance against OOXML seems to be trying to force MS to do ODF instead. Microsoft stated that ODF did not provide full coverage of Office features even to Office 2003, let alone new features in Office 2007. They were never, ever going to choose ODF. Even extending ODF, which they were not allowed to do, would be a weak solution: ODF simply requires more characters to represent the same document. OK, it's compressed, but the uncompressed text has to be processed when loading and saving.

Your choice was: accept some kind of standard and influence over Word's file format, or reject it and have no influence over OOXML. Neither option will give you Word using ODF by default. I don't see that having two standards for word processing documents is a big problem; we have multiple standards for different representations of programs (C, C++, Ada, etc, etc).

I was unsurprised to see criticism that Office 2007 does not meet the ISO OOXML standard. Of course it doesn't. Office 2007 was released long before the changes from ISO committee members. Your article is incorrect, by the way; the standard has been approved, that's what they're fighting against. 'Fast-Track' simply means that ECMA presented a fully-drafted standard to ISO for approval, rather than the multiple stages of inventing and drafting that for example C++ has had. There was ample opportunity for revision in ECMA - the process started in December 2005.

This is only coming about because some people - who seem largely to be Anything But Microsoft - don't like the outcome.

posted by : Mike Dimmick, 10 June 2008 Complain about this comment
Make a donation

Go here to make a donation.

http://www.ukuug.org/payment/

I put 'OOXML action' for the reason.

posted by : Kevin Bailey, 10 June 2008 Complain about this comment
50,000? That's cheap if they succeed

Even if it's paid in US dollars by only US citizens(No, I'm not saying that's what's going to happen), that is a low price to keep Microsoft out.

I have $50 for them if they go the donations route.

posted by : Jason Goatcher, 10 June 2008 Complain about this comment
Its' Unix World

UNIX in Todays World is Real Code. Not Erector Set, Handy Andy Code.Nor
Lots of Specialty Server Hardware complete code systems that exist & rate: So What.

Theres aLota of Code, in general, Cobol C++ being base or write Your Own. yet from practical, nationwide, Runs Entire system Correctly Code:UNIX.Quydea Mess without UNIX.

Everything from Microsoft is converted to M/S Playtime, Barbie Doll GI Joe Pretend Software. Its readily Available & often demos free & is Stable. it also runs on Standardly available Hardware ,too. In Fact with enough Translation software , plug in chip/boards, anything can go just about anywhere. Microsoft has gotten idea that theres certain easeibility is minimun.Good.
Seems funny Unix would appeal to charity like funding.Seems NON Professional threat or beginner like.Result is No Ones Intrested, Unix works & expands & life carries on.
Drashek


posted by : Unix_Head, 10 June 2008 Complain about this comment
As Usual

S--t talks, money walks. Micr0$ucks will get their way simply because they can outlast anyone when it comes to spending money and shoving their will down people's throats. Don't like what we're doing? Tough - sue us.

Jim

posted by : Jim, 09 June 2008 Complain about this comment

UK unix beardies appeal for $cash

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