Along with the complete domination of public privacy all being caught on camera for sevurity reasosn or whatever reasons, this terrible nazi Labour government think of. So too are so many councils guilty of monitering motorists so they can be fined for driving or parking a millimetre out of place. This whoe country has gone mad especially those from labour givernment, this country has become nothing but a TV program for 'so called' security and law and order reasons. Welcome to Logans Run, it wasn't so far fictional after all was it? I hate the British system It is obscene, unhappy and miserable...I am leaving the UK as fast as I can.

I recently visited Canada and was pulled aside for a detailed immigration enquiry. They were able to tell me which company I worked for which was suprising since I work for a UK branch of an American firm with no direct employment relationship (ie contract)... exactly how much information is being shared about us?

You know a Nanny State would be preferable to what we have here in the UK, which is a chaotic combination of self interested politics driven by greed and big business influence, and sheer blind juggernaut incompetence. We are going to hell in a handbasket and the government is standing idly by extolling the virtues of handbaskets in general terms, taking money from handbasket manufacturers to say so, and then looking the other way while we plummet to our doom. Never underestimate the power of greed and ignorance. The government never does the right thing, it always does the thing which looks best on TV.

Like the ban on Airsoft guns for example... ban anything that looks like a gun, not because it will prevent violent crime in ANY way but because it's easy, doable and achieves absolutely nothing while seeming to be taking bold and decisive action.

Would these be the same robust controls the government uses to protect our private data?

"We would like to reassure the public that robust controls have been put in place to control and safeguard access to, and use of, the information."

Note that this does *not* say that such controls are in place -- just that they wish they could reassure the public.

In fact, we know that such controls are not in place. The Bush Administration doesn't respect the rights and privacy of it's own citizens, much less anyone else. 

Despite the fact that the US Constitution states that the government "shall not...", the Bush Administration takes the position that such restrictions are strictly for US citizens. (And then violates them anyway.)




So, does this mean from now on we will be getting signs up just below our road signs in tiny print that you couldn't possibly read whilst driving saying "please note, your travelling may be recorded for security or training purposes?".


I think you're a bit behind by calling the UK a NASCENT security state. There isn't that much left to implement from Orwell's 1984. Spying on people without an ability to watch the watchers: check. Doublespeak: check (in principle any message from New Labour). Uncontrolled police forces: check (ask the Brazilian on the tube, or anyone who's ever had the word anti-terror thrown at them - or Poole council)..

The US are even worse than the UK when it comes to loss of data!

more errosion of basic human rights - I didnt see us the public having a say in this (cus if we did, it would have been boycotted just as quick as the national ID scheme).

Its one thing for us to monitor our own - but allowing others to monitor aswell is just taking the downright mick.

expect to see. Terrorists riding in a bus with "hezbollah" in big bright yellow letters. And so on. Call me boring or banal but if I were a terrorist travelling on a UK motorway I would seek to look inconspicuous. Go ahead, arrest me. Imagine am I right, and that you are never going to spot a terrorist on camera, what else could you do with the info? Is there any *other* reason than datamining to allow intelleigence agencies this access? A tenner for the first person to come up with a legitimate counter terrorist use of the data.

you cant escape they've renovated a walkway near the beach where i live, the work isn't complete. I noticed apart from lamp posts there is a giant pole which i can only guess a security camera will sit on top. Plus on my way to work there are LOTS of cameras, they even shout at you apparently.

>> Terrorists riding in a bus with "hezbollah" in big bright yellow letters

why not f*** with their heads a little? maybe it's time to start riding around in vans marked 'INTERNATIONAL COCAINE SMUGGLERS INC.'? Or just Hizbullah / Al Qa'eda / Democratic Party...