Rly?

woot! come back AMD! we love you really!

WTF!

Nah no way AMD could release a 4.0GHZ stock processor, what the hell?! this is complete b.s must be.

Although if it where true! THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!

Vaporous

Sheesh. the Inq article ampilfies the hype of an article that has absolutely no facts in evidence. Why are you wasting your readers time with this drivel.

come on

Please, isn't April 1st!
old and probably fake cpuz image

didn't they already release an FX-80?

As well i can't see them jumping from 2.5 to 4.0Ghz. that would be unlikely. would like to be proved wrong though!

O RLY?

Whilst I would love for this to be true, since it would involve some real secret magic having been done by AMD to catch up somewhat with Intel, I can't see this being true. It just sounds too much of a leap.

Current 65nm Phenoms do about 2.6GHz or so and overclock generally to around 3GHz if you know what you're doing. I can quite imagine 3GHz and 3.4GHz stock chips being released at first and gradually getting the speed up, but to suddenly come up with 4GHz+ is just suspicious.

I'm not being quite as rude as Bryan here, but it does seem like a lot of hyperbole. Maybe you could dig into the facts of this for us to confirm/deny the real story? For those of us with AM2+ platforms and Athlon X2 processors at present, it would be nice to get an idea of what the truth will be when 45nm hits.

Rumors !! hell of them !!

well some guys are overwhelmed by Deneb !!

at these clocks !! dual core is to go, no way AMD can do this with QC and 45nm.. it's hard to believe it even with HKMG !! and we know Deneb with HKMG is a no go this time !!

Useless

Even if they can beat a Kentsfield, they can't beat a core i7. Next gen beating last last gen - now that's some news!

Um

Before anyone rips into the Inq, please bear in mind that some "stories" are just so ridiculous that it's fun to play along. Ever heard of fun?

Hahahahaha!!!

"The Deneb core apparently has a multiplyer of up to 25x!"

Welcome to effin' yesterday! My old FX-57 has the multiplier of up to guess what? Yep, 25.

Anyway.... Yea, I wish.

Yeah right then

So somehow we've to believe that AMD has pulled a 4GHz+ bunny out of its hat, when it struggles to get current Phenoms to 3GHz. .

Maybe...

Well look what happened with the ati graphics cards, the 3800's were crap tbh, nothing to compete with nvidias 8800 series then out of no where 3 Crazy good cards.

Same thing with the cpu's ?

... not so vaporous...

.. I guess I was the only one searching around for deneb's benchies in the last couple of weeks... (yeah, slow days.. not just for news!)

http://en.hardspell.com/doc/showcont.asp?news_id=3858

http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-6035-view-AMD-deneb-preview.html

http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-6100-view-AMD-45NM-deneb-benchmarks.html

Looks like early silicon and yet they could OC it to 3.2G, with a nice looking TDP...

I hope

I hope this is true, and I hope this is representative of the shipping parts. Remember before phenom was released AMD was showing systems running at 3Ghz.

If they can actually release parts clocked in these ranges, then great! Intel needs some competition right now.

Launch Clock Lower?

If I'm not mistaken, for the original Phenom launch AMD demoed it at 3GHz as reported by The Inquirer.

http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer/news/2007/07/26/amd-shows-off-30ghz-barcelona

I believe the launch clocks were at first supposed to be 2.8GHz, then 2.6GHz, and we ended up with 2.3GHz. 2.3GHz is 82% of 2.8GHz, so perhaps we should take 82% of the 4GHz claim and we get 3.28GHz. A 3.2GHz or 3.3GHz launch clock actually sounds about right.

How much heat

If those stock speeds are true I wonder if it will also produce enough heat to replace my stove top burners

We need Deneb to be good

It really doesn't matter if its b.s. or not. It doesn't matter if you believe it or not. All companies claim their next product beats the competition or does things better/faster/cheaper/more efficiently. Its called PR.

I hope it is true. We need AMD to be strong enough to compete with Intel. Intel CPU prices usually end up around doubling when AMD doesn't have a competing product.

Suckers

To present such BS here makes "Inquirer = suckers".

That 4GHz looks familiar.. hold on... it looks like the one from Overclock.Net! The one that was posted by a NEWBIE with a SINGLE post (the screenshot itself) and nothing else.

Heck, I can even Photochop a CPUZ shot showing Deneb at 5GHz easy. The post it on a forum and whammo... the Inquirer picks it up and makes up a new part number called FX90!

Why not post the real stuff from Hardspell?

Deneb is fast

Woot! Remember, fanbois, AMD works very closely with IBM when it comes to processes. IBM puts a LOT of effort into process development, and chip design rules so it's not unreasonable to assume that IBM may have made a breakthrough along the line that would support 4GHz+ on 45nm. The Power chips they use for mainframes are in that area.

This isn't going to happen

It doesn't matter that IBM has POWER6 chips that run this fast and faster, POWER6 is an in-order chip. And for the record, it's not used in mainframes technically. That would be the z10, which is POWER6 based.

But all that is just rambling. AMD isn't going to be able to pull launch speeds like this. I'd be surprised if they ever, ever got Deneb running this fast.

Sigh

I think they must have got the 4 key stuck.

I would expect the new cpus to run at 3 and 3.2 not 4 and 4.2...

but I'll hold my breath anyway, it's about time I upgraded from this x2 6000+.

Screenshot

The full screenshot is here:

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthread.php?s=73f4688faaf38509658152db7f489ef1&t=2045756&page=2

They seem to think it's genuine?

404 Not Found

The link is down, my dear suckers!

As much as you want to believe, 4GHz on stock is just too much and illogical. With Intel that was more believeable since many regularly overclocks hit 4GHz+ with just air cooling alone (especially the recent E0 steppings reported to be able to hit 5GHz on air too!), but it took LN2 to get Phenom to 4GHz! The Deneb ES featured on Hardspell was only 2.3GHz stock.

Possible FAKE

Hey Joe, this is the ORIGINAL source of that 4GHz CPUZ "screenshot" (which AceHW, XS, HWZone, etc was referring to...)

http://www.overclock.net/4285114-post9.html

By Coconut_8 ... Notice the poster's statistics?

Now the Reviewage website is suspended! Anymore suckers out there?

Deneb NOT Barcelona 45nm

I'm not commenting on the accuracy of this screenshot, I'm 95% certain it is a fake, but people should not be saying Deneb is just a shrunk, 45nm Barcelona.

It has been established from multiple sources (Sauces?!!) that AMD has done NO Barcelona development after the B3 stepping that fixed the TLB bug. They instead decided (I think correctly) to focus on Deneb.

The result is that Deneb is more than a simple shrink, more than a stepping evolution, and actually introduces significant (m)architectural changes.

The result?
With the die shrink and internal changes, using the Barcelona Phenoms as a guide to what speeds Denebs can reach is pointless.

2.8 - 3.0 Ghz actually...

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20080828043213_AMD_s_First_45nm_Desktop_Microprocessors_Set_to_Arrive_on_the_8th_of_January_2009.html

Maybe...

I believe that screenshot is utter BS, but i also believe Deneb is going to kick some ass. Remember what AMD has done before.

Also remember, that the PhenomX4 is a native quadcore, while Intels Core2Quads are basically just two Dualcores slammed together. I.e. the Phenom design is potentially superior, we just have to see what AMD makes out of it.

It probably won't beat the i7, but that isn't the market AMD is after right now. They know they're behind and they aren't trying to compete with the i7, they're aiming for the main stream and at providing whole solutions under one brand and who can say no thanks to that?

Also, if the author of this article was serious or just having a laugh doesn't matter, he succeeded in starting a discussion, which is a win in itself.

Sounds a bit far stretched...

Ok, even I would like for AMD to pull this one off but truth is, there is no way that they are going to push out a CPU @ 4GHz. 3.0-3.4 is more likely. Even I've got my 9850BE oc'd to 2.91 @ 1.344v and its still running relatively warm @ 44C. it would be nice to have a stock clock @ 4.0GHZ but I though the clock wars were over in favor of better architecture...

it is possible

there is a possibility that this might be true. you have to know that amd works on multipule projects both for processors and gpus long before they are on the marked. all projects are on various stages and appearently some time ago the disclosed the specs for the r1xxx already very long before the product will actualy be marked ready.
and you have to see that amd had about a year or even longer to finish this project afther the agena phenoms came out.
it wont be there for about 2nd quarter 2009
they already sad they are going to ultra low en high k delectrics. and some cpu z images already show it can run on 4GHZ without to much problems. also the 45nm cores are very small compared to intels nehalem you should see the concept from chip architect.in the amount of time they have they have more then enough time to refine there production process to make it possible to create such cpus by volume
if it already comes out beginning of the year or late this year at 3ghz for the mainstream part expact it to be good enough for its price since the most expansive nehalem you can buy is the 2,66ghz version because the 3,2ghz extreme edition sets you back about 1K which might kill your monthly paycheak.