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Creative delivers hardware HD audio on PCI-e

First INQpressions Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatality


Product Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatality Champion series
Type Hardware-accelerated HD sound card & module
Web www.creative.com
Price 160 quid inc VAT or 120 inc VAT without I/O module


DESPITE its more or less successful attempts to gain foothold in media player gadgetry, Creative Technology, aka Creative Labs, is still mostly known for its Sound Blaster PC audio standard.

The problem is that over the past two years, Creative has produced far more news in the gadgetry area than in the area of high-end PC sound. The reason? It took longer than usual to work out a PCI-E version of the Sound Blaster X-Fi, the card with the EMU20K audio processor, local X-RAM, effects and such - all fully in hardware.

Why do we need the PCI-E version, when the old PCI ones worked perfectly - Vista driver hardware acceleration excluded? The problem is that, by next year, there'll be fewer and fewer PCI slots on new mainboards. In fact, once Nehalems are in the mainstream by mid 2009, don't be surprised to find lots of mobos without any old PCI slots at all. So, it's either PCI-E or nothing.

The card
The card itself is substantially shorter than the PCI siblings, barely two-thirds of their length. If inserted into the first PCI-e x1 slot, usually before the GPU and near the North Bridge cooling contraption like on the Asus Rampage Extreme, the compact size helps fit it easily.

Furthermore, there's a noise black shield here as well, the first for Creative X-Fi line. Asustek's Xonar sound card obviously started this trend which will not disappear any time soon - sexy looking shielded sound cards are here to stay.

Under the hood
In some cases, like with an earlier Asus Xonar card, the PCI-E compatibility was achieved on the quick by combining the existing PCI sound chip with a PLX or similar PCI to PCI-E x1 bridge. It does add a little latency but usually, for audio at least, it shouldn't be a major problem.


Creative, however, created a native PCI-E audio processor with its EMU20K2. While this was a reason behind a big part of the new card's delay, it may prove to be a very sound investment, pun intended.

Why? Well, a single-chip native PCI-E implementation will open the door to future mainboard versions, like MSI has been doing on selected high-end mobos over the past few years. Without widespread mainboard bundling presence, Creative couldn't count on keeping the Sound Blaster X-Fi brand as the new standard setter material.

The 64MB X-RAM memory chip is there for games like Quake 4, Battlefield 2, Prey, Unreal Tournament 3 and others that take advantage of it - also, the Intel HD Audio compliant front panel header eases the connection job for most standard PC cases. However, the very top-end amplifier circuitry for the music enjoyment is still left to Creative's partner Auzentech to implement.

Talking about entertainment, Creative included Dolby Digital Live connecting to your home theatre system through a single digital cable (available separately) for 5.1 surround sound. The DTS stuff and such, again, is left to Auzentech.

The 24-bit 96 kHz (192 kHz for conversion of stereo digital sources only) sampling support stayed the same as in the current X-Fi cards, probably enough for most of us, just like the 109 dB claimed signal to noise ratio.

The I/O drive, fitting both 3.5-inch and 5.25-inch (two extra connectors in the latter case) drive bays, are helpful for various sound input and output gadgets.

As for the Creative software suite, the usual three modes - Audio Creation, Entertainment and Game are available, with the Audio Console, Creative Mediasource and other usual applets.

We ran the card on the newest setup here - Asus Rampage Extreme with Intel QX9650 and 8GB Kingston DDR3-1600 memory, with the display taken care of by Asustek's Geforce GTX280 TOP card. The X-Fi Titanium fit nicely into the first PCI-E slot meant for audio cards - interestingly, Asus bundles custom shields (Asus ROG style) budget non-DSP X-Fi version with this mobo.

In this first run, the Vista64 SP1, known for its unfriendliness to hardware-accelerated audio or Creative's EAX 5.0, was used as a check platform to see what happens with the RightMark 3D audio CPU utilisation benchmark vs the default bundled X-Fi non-DSP audio.

Here are the results - of course, the bundled simple audio couldn't even test the hardware 3-D option here. In generic audio, the CPU utilisation of the bundled audio hovered around one per cent, while the X-Fi Titanium was between zero and 0.5 per cent.

It seems that, despite Vista's problems, the CPU utilisation when using 3-D effects on the X-Fi Titanium is still basically zero at the standard 44.1 kHz.

In the follow up, we'll be looking at some frame-rate gains for the games on both XP and Vista, CPU loads vs software audio at 96 kHz 24-bit settings, as well as the card's behaviour in an overclocked Rampage configuration.

Overall, this is very good news: native PCI-E audio with full hardware acceleration in a nice-looking card - hopefully, Creative will make sure that the Linux and MacOS support is there for all the X-Fi Titanium and Platinum features - there are less of these users, but most of them do pay for premium hardware if the driver support is there.

The Good native PCI-E, fast full hardware HD audio, Sound Blaster X-Fi brand
The Bad Price should be lower, plus more incentives for mainboard integration
The Ugly Vista is still a long-term problem until it fully allows hardware accelerated audio

Beer Rating
I'll have another

Comments

Dolby Digital Live?

So... Has Creative gotten their head out of their ass regarding DDL or DTS Connect?

Cuz otherwise they can go fish..
posted by : Dr. Kenneth Noisewater, 31 July 2008

quandry

I've always been at odd with spending a garden shed load on hi-end sound cards for PCs. PC audio has to battle against the CPU/GPU/case fan and hard drive noise which realistily degrades any sound experience quite dramatically. If your CD player made a fraction of the noise your PC does, you wouldn't bother linking it up to an expensive amp. Until you can completely kill the noise coming from the PC, audio will always be a relatively poor experience no matter how good the audio card is.
posted by : absent, 31 July 2008

The Even Uglier

the really ugly thing about creative’s x-fi cards is the driver support.

xp: why does a sound driver need to be >100MB when installed? and why does the supposedly best/fastest audio processor in the world need to switch its operating mode when I stop gaming and want to listen to mp3 music instead, requiring me to start up a modesetting program and resulting in 3 seconds of full cpu load?

vista: I’ve never tried to install an x-fi under the BrokenOS myself, but from what I hear creative’s vista drivers have been unstable for months, having become usable only recently.

macos: has creative ever heard of this OS?

linux: more than 2 years after the original x-fi became available, creative finally released so-called "beta drivers" for linux. these did not even compile without modification, and even when compiled successfully did not work for most users that tried them (i.e. spent hours fiddling with them), including me. the second (and so far latest) release was hardly any better. is it too much to ask at least for stereo-capable linux drivers from the worlds (wannabe-)#1 sound card manufacturer?

personally, I’ve had enough. I do not believe that creative’s drivers, especially those for linux/mac, will get usable soon enough to be worth waiting for. my own x-fi went to ebay after 10 months of frustration, and I will not buy a creative labs soundcard again.
"hopefully, Creative will make sure that the Linux and MacOS support is there" — do not get your hopes up that the new PCIE generation will see any better support.
posted by : fed up with creative, 31 July 2008

Fool me twice?

Too late for Creative, after the X-Fi/Audigy
driver fiasco, there are many(including myself)
who will never purchase another Creative
product.

Fool me twice? Don't think so.
posted by : Charles Wood, 31 July 2008

Creative: never again

Creative is a horrible company.. they long stopped creating something new.. that last time they really tried was way way back... when Aureal was still kicking their butt.. Unfortunately Aureal made some bad decisions (making their own pcbs etc) which allowed Creative to buy and dispose of them.

Since then Creative is the only company offering hardware solution (with the only exception of the truly awesome Nforce2 chip set with SoundStorm) they have a monopoly position which they have been milking (totally abusing) ever since.

Did you know that if you lose the Creative driver CD you are totally fu##ed? Sure you can TRY to download drivers without it from their site.. but these 'drivers' will make a software 2 channel piece o crap out of your 7.1 $200+ card. No CD? No full Driver.. the creative way...

You might wonder why that would be.. well, since creative started just renaming all of their crap and selling it as new and for 2x the price they had to resort to such measures since otherwise people would just download the new driver and have a 'new' card.

Of course everything else out there is Realtek or C-Media based, which means codec based.. which of course means the chip is just a stupid translator.. all the work has to be done on the CPU.

So why did the PCIe take soooooooo long? Because they actually had to change SOMETHING.. it's just a stupid bridge chip yet they still managed to make it take 2+ years? "Creative" at it's "best". Truly awful.
posted by : Raven737, 31 July 2008

So.... another flop...?

Creative releasing another sound card.... Big YAWN...!

So what? I don't care what they release anymore cuz I'm surly not gonna buy it!

Creative's support is so aweful and they are such an arrogant company, I'll never buy from them again and I hope I can persuade others not to also.

As one of the posters said, you will NOT fool me again! Creative's drivers and support stinks unto the high heavens, and they have the personalty for it's customers to match that of an alligator!

No Creative for ME!
posted by : Mike Lamb, 31 July 2008

But

Its still a Creative product. With their whole Vista driver hatchet job and outright bullshot about harware support and the whole 3rd party driver modder fiasco as well as pus poor customer relations and customer support, it will be a cold cold cold day in hell before Creative get another penny from me. They can stick their XFi Fatal1ty Mk5 GTi Turbo Diesel where the sun dont shine.
posted by : CL-Hater, 31 July 2008

Pricey..

I own this exact card in standard PCI form factor. It's amazing and although I think the PCI-X is a useless feature for sound, it's still an amazing card. The fools on the inter-wibble thinking there are driver problems are just not talented enough to use and set up their computers. That is all.
posted by : Coma, 31 July 2008

won't work on top PCI-E slot

On my Rampage Formula, XP or Vista x64 won't recognize the card. On Vista it installs as HD Audio, but will not detect Creative driver. The card/driver installs fine when insterted to any other PCI-E slot. That slot 'is' designated for Asus SupremeFX II sound card. (I did try to enable/disable HD audio inBIOS) D-Link wireless card works fine in that slot.
posted by : Asus Rampage Formula, 31 July 2008

too little too late

I wonder who Creative bought out to get this tech? I see they finally have DDL after a good 5 years since nVidia introduced it to the PC market, but it's too little too late. They've already ruined their reputation with anyone who's been paying attention over the past decade, and they keep making the same mistakes with poor, short-lifecycle support, bloated drivers, and emphasis on marketing and product placement over innovation.

For all intents and purposes, on-board sound has made Creative's sound cards obsolete. DDL is the only thing that on-board hasn't offered since nVidia's brief flirtation with the technology, and Creative is years late to the party on that one as well.

P.S. @quandry: that's what digital output is for.
posted by : B S, 31 July 2008

Drivers

Agreed. Creative has been absolutely woeful in it's driver support over the last 2 years that I've owned an X-Fi. I've used it on at least 4 clean installs of XP and now on Vista and it's had similar problems the whole way through. Great when it works, but infuriating when it doesn't.

Their driver support is worse than Dell's.
posted by : Timboj, 01 August 2008

i still remember...

i can recall the Daniel_k case from Creative few months back, i can trust Creative no more, period.

i will go with M-audio or Asus sound cards in the future upgrade, Creative can kiss my @ss good bye.

-1 support from me, thank you very much.
posted by : leil, 01 August 2008

support?

Well if you lose your cd to any audigy product, you will probably find a better driver selection at the piratebay then at the crativelabs. With out all of the crapware, (i mean cd) the drivers arent really complete. on the up side, open source has done a great job on supporting the audigy 2 and has excellent drivers, compared to the creative labs. where is this lab in the potty room? now my borther is the happy/unsuspecting owner/victim.
posted by : missingxtension, 01 August 2008

old X-Fi

I have been using one of the earlier PCI X-FI Fatal1ty cards for almost a year now. When I first got it, the Vista drivers had pretty much just been released but weren't perfect. There have been updates since which have certainly improved stability and performance of the drivers and software, so I have no problems there.

The only real issue I continually experience with it is that because of the removal of the HAL (hardware abstraction layer) from Vista, most older games with older EAX modes can only run in standard stereo. ALchemy does restore EAX to several games, but certainly not enough titles for my liking. EAX 4 and 5 run fine though even without ALchemy turned on.

I have seen this new Titanium PCI-E card for a while now but despite the better bus and connectivity (old card required the digital IO module for optical out and the special 3 connector cable for hooking up to 6.1 or 7.1 sound systems and lacked the standard Intel front panel audio support), I still don't see how it is worth the upgrade from my current card.

Until Creative include full 7.1 HD audio support (ie. decoding for DTS HD and Dolby TrueHD) via HDMI, I do not have any reason to update my sound card (unless my next motherboard doesn't have PCI slots). However, to anyone using integrated audio with more than 2.1 speakers, I seriously recommend getting a decent sound card as it really does make a difference to your sound.
posted by : David, 01 August 2008

Worst. Support. Ever.

Creative products and especially their sound cards look awesome on paper.
It isn't until you need to use it and find out that the feature on the box is actually not supported by drivers yet but will be soon.

No thanks, I still have a SB X-Fi Fatality in my system with a remote that refuses to work.

Trying to get driver support out of Creative for Vista was insane and I am probably still banned from their forums.

Then once driver support was released for Vista that is all it was. The expensive sound card worked barely as well as internal sound and it took Creative a long time (decent amount of a year) to release software updates so the card would operate as advertised.

Creative can get bent.
posted by : Creative boils my blood., 01 August 2008

Remember remember the 5th of november...

I see alot of people are miffed about Vista...HAHAHAHAHA!

That is what I have to say. You poor bastids. Recall the good old days before?

Everyone knows that when you have a proper graphics card & a creative sound card your game has AMAZING sound!

It goes "SNAP, CRACKLE AND POP!"

So after many months of tens of thousands of complaints of outraged users in their forums... They finally release a statement that says graphics cards are hogging the bus & their card is starved for latency & its not their fault blah blah blah.

Everyone else who made a sound card did not have that problem.

The only way I could play games was to reduce sound hardware acceleration to "basic"

Which the geniuses at creative may understand kinda defeats the purpose of owning a creative sound blaster.

Now this was back when SB Live! was all the big hooha...I saw they released a new card (at the time) dubbed it X-Fi. Does what no other card does blah blah blah. Checked the forums and guess what??

It too goes "SNAP, CRACKLE AND POP!"

So now they have a native PCI-E version, which supposedly elliminates al lthese bandwith hogging issues etc etc...

So the question is...if ASUS have theyr XONAR card, the DB2...which runs fine & often gives better quality sound. A card that RUNS ON LINUX...

WHY SHOULD WE BUY CREATIVE>???

Dear PR bunnies, your driver team is pretty amature. The support teams is a bloody shame to the industry BUT you have decent hardware.

No go earn your money & make ugly betty look attractive again.

P.S.

That may involve making a product that works.
posted by : Someone special, 01 August 2008

If it hadn't been...

...for the astonishing lack of competent driver developers, I'd recommend Creative soundcards to whomever I could. As it stands I suspect the entire Soundblaster driver-team @ Creative consists of two high school students working weekends stressing forward a driver with absolutely no Q/A before release, then they're hired when complaints have reached an arbitrary value (2,000,000 complaints, make an appointment...4,000,000 complaints, see if one of the in-house devs can take a look at the mess and solve the most blaring bug).

For being the #1 soundcard manufacturer their driver department sucks worse than ATI's did in it's worst moments a decade ago.
posted by : Scyphe, 01 August 2008

No DDL?

@B S

Realtek has DDL on some of their on-board solutions. The 882 chip on my AN9 Fatal1ty offers it via spdif, I'd assume newer chips would also.

Older SB cards were more than capable of DDL, its just Creative could not be arsed to pay Dolby for the licence. It was not implimented untill the Auzentech XFi based cards. They did pay Dolby. This is when the whole danial_k thing kicked off, when he briefly made available drivers than enabled DDL on the SB cards using modded Auzentech drivers.

To the idiot that recons those who have problems with Creative harware dont know how to use a computer;

The vast majority of those likely to bother buying a soundcard are not likely to be noobs. If you had spent any time on Creatives forums you'd know that there have been some very knowledgable people ranting about all manor of issues with just about every product Creative make. The end user IS NOT the problem. A hyped up corporation abusing its market dominence IS the problem, by peddling crap on little more than flashy packaging, half truth specifications and a quickly disappearing reputation.
posted by : ahem, 01 August 2008

Maybe I'm a lucky one, but..

Creative has done a very good job, from my own personal experience. As expected when I upgraded to Vista when it first came out, I had audio problems as well as many other issues. But all it took was playing with my system a little and finding a work around. Anyways, I fixed the sound issues but a few months later, I got bored with my PC and bought a new one. This time I went ahead and purchased the Creative SB Titanium Fatality Professional card, and man oh man did it work beautifully. The sound is absolutely amazing when gaming and when watching movies. I give this card and my sound experience 10 out of 10 stars. I do see alot of people having problems which makes me wonder if I am just lucky that I got a good card and good PC with no problems, or if I am just good at fixing problems and figuring out how to make things work. Anyways, sorry so many people have problems with Creative, but I know many people who are more than satisifed with their Creative problems. You just don't see them posting much because, well...there is nothing wrong and nothing to complain about. Anyways, I hghly recommed the Creative Sound Blaster X-FI Fatality Pro PCIe Card.
posted by : Byron, 11 August 2008
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