Music and film industry to get police force
Funded by the tax-payer
A TOP-SECRET DEAL being ironed out by G8 nations will give the Music and film industry a state-paid force of copyright cops with the same powers of customs officials.
The copyright police can seize your mp3 player or laptop to see if it contains pirated content and can order ISPs to turn over personal data without the need for proof.
G8 members, at the request of those wonderful examples of humanity at the RIAA, are agreeing to turn tax-payer paid customs officers into boot boys for the record and music business.
The Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA), will be discussed at the next G8 meeting in Tokyo, in July.
The Ottawa Citizen claims that the moves are part of a package of laws to govern private copying and copyright laws.
When you arrive in the country the copyright police would be given the job of checking laptops, Ipods, phones and other personal devices for content that 'infringes' copyright laws.
If you have any ripped CDs or DVDs you could be in deep in poo as the customs officials can define on the spot what they think constitutes copyright infringement.
The Citizen claims that the proposals are being drawn up in secret in order to outflank any outcry by privacy advocates. What is perhaps scary is that the copyright cops could fine or seize goods and search passengers without a lawyer present.
ISPs will be forced to hand over personal information on any alleged copyright infringers without any actual proof being needed.
In short it gives the RIAA a tax-payer-funded police force with the power to search, fine and confiscate property without any accountability. µ
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Big Brother is watching you!big brother
Scary to see how the brown shirt thugs of the RIAA are trying implement flavours of Nazism be means of pre-1933 style political influence.And that all paid by the international taxpayer.. Consumer and civil rights organisations send out your Chamberlains to our defence!!!
Next step after that,, allow them to perform cavity searches at customs to look for flash ram contraband that might contain music or film?
Power in the wrong hands...
If they have the wrong people working for them, what prevents them from effectively stealing your brand new iPod or 2 grand's worth of laptop? All because you backed up a CD onto it which you didn't want to get scratched! I can understand that drugs can be seized and destroyed, but computers, music players, mobile phones?Power and abuse
Let's face it: Copyright infringement is nothing compared to assault, murder, rape or even your run of the mill theft. It's kinda hard to frame someone for murder or theft. But hack his Wifi, download child porn and see him getting taken to jail.The more rigorous the enforcement the bigger the possibility of false positives.
The classic case of planting evidence might use less drugs and more bootleg DVDs...
Now hacking the wifi of RIAA and MPAA lawyers and directors and getting them to jail... :) priceless
Of course
People wonder why I'm a misanthrope and why I don't believe in fairy tales (God). If this is true, it's one more check box on the list why.On it's way
"In short it gives the RIAA a tax-payer-funded police force with the power to search, fine and confiscate property without any accountability"Isn't this one of the signs of the Apocalypse?
sigh
man I have already done it and since I moved to a more "secure" p2p method I have not bothered encrypting my media partition... but its time again....also how can they proof my music on my ipod is copyrighted... maybe I own of of those CDs in my flat in antartica
http://www.truecrypt.org/
Remake of Fahrenheit 451
Can see a remake of Fahrenheit 451 coming based on this...1984
This is outrageous, I don't know many people with as much purchased music as myself.. so if this copyright police or whatever stops me and look in my PMP what are they going to do, will they walk me home and look through my cd collection to see that i own every flac file on the PMP ??Is it 1984 already ?? *evil*
Enough with this bullshit already, we are already letting private corporations gain way too much power over the little people.
Hmm
Oooh,this is going to start leading to a whole new type of smuggling.Pretty soon we'll have people locked in small rooms with these police, while they wait for them to "pass" balloons full of memory sticks.
been brewing for a few months it seems
http://www.ustr.gov/Document_Library/Press_Releases/2007/October/Ambassador_Schwab_Announces_US_Will_Seek_New_Trade_Agreement_to_Fight_Fakes.html[quote]
The proliferation of infringements of intellectual property rights (“IPR”) particularly in the context of counterfeiting and piracy poses an ever-increasing threat to the sustainable development of the world economy. The consequences of such IPR infringements include (1) depriving legitimate businesses and their workers of income; (2) discouraging innovation and creativity; (3) threatening consumer health and safety; (4) providing an easy source of revenue for organized crime; and (5) loss of tax revenue.
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Favorite bollocks: (3) threatening consumer health and safety
How will this get approved ?
They can draw up all the proposals they want, but to be implemented it has to be passed into law.Do you really think privacy advocates will sit back and say nothing as soon as the proposal becomes public ?
If RIAA cannot force ISPs to hand over data today, how will they be able to force them to hand over data without proof just because the G8 proposes it ?
Is this just a troll ?
WTF
Guess I'll just sit here and practice my shooting until Big Brother finally tries to take my few remaining rights away.We were due for another revolution anyways.
ACTA Campaign Info
IP Justice published a White Paper analyzing ACTA and the unfair way in which it is being created and IPJ posted lots of links to more info on ACTA here:http://ipjustice.org/wp/campaigns/acta/
Lawmakers
The RIAA lobbyists must have a compelling case (or offer fact-finding missions on large yachts with a lot of party-girls) for the entire G8 to agree on something.Counterfeiting medicines and airplane parts is nasty but copying your CD onto your Pod.
nothing new
"If you thought the armywas here protecting people like yourself
I've some news for you
we're here to defend wealth"
Billy Bragg
The police and armed forces are not for the protection of proles. We might pay their wages but we don't give the orders. This is just more of the same old same old. If you are wearing a $3000 Brooks suit you get protection but if you are in jeans and a t-shirt you're a suspect before you're a citizen.
Intimidation and fear are the tools the cops use to keep us in line. Can't have the rabble upsetting this nice system of funneling wealth ever upwards while below we are promised tinkle down, ahem, that's trickle down. Golden showers to enrich us.
In the name of money
But, any rapist or child molester can travel around, as well as do his deed without being bothered or put in jail for a couple years.Right now, we could run over someone while drunk, high and speeding... get caught.. pay our fine, and be in less trouble than carrying an ipod to france.
Mp3 + FM radio
Almost all Mp3 players have FM radio and record function for creating mp3 files from radio waves. Will be all people who recorded music from radio prosecuted and Mp3 players confiscated?hello!
i hope this gets passed into law in every european country + usa. I've had enough of these scumbags smuggling contraband across our great nations' borders.The people have become apathetic to the fact that there are laws and that those laws should not be violated. He who wills to break even the most trivial law will not wince to further his disestablishmentiarism through other, more heinous crimes:thus undermining our great iron republic.
Or, you know, you could just update capitalism with another proxy and all will be as it ever was (might need a revolution though, bloody mess).
axiomatic13@gmail.com
So those of you "on the fence" about this argument I hope are now "crystal clear" on why you just need to NOT BUY any product of the RIAA.I still don't believe it when I read it... "tax dollars"?!?!? W-T-F?!?!?!
The RIAA are laughing at you all.... and then "thumbing" their nose at you.
Top Cop
I can't wait to see how entertaining the news is going to be when they start to throw even more people into America's prison system... Ha ha! for having unauthorized music? (too funny)I really do hope we get some new reality TV shows... something along the lines of "I used to be middle class, now I take it in the ***"
How about "COPS: Mp3 unit."
I love the world... just give in, stay home, eat your gm'd food, take your stay awake, go to sleep, be happy pills, burn all the electricity you want, screw the pooch, marry an asian, and watch the crap hit the fan.
Actually I hate this world and I'm going to blow it up, next Tuesday.
Scary
If this really is being considered, it's very scary and needs stopping. Surely these highly paid bureaucrats can think of more productive uses of their time than tagging more unnecessary legislation onto the overflowing legislatory wastebasket, which desperately needs overhauling and rethinking anyway?!Inspector Knacker joins Inter{Pop} @ HardRockPark Yard
Fly Jefferson Airplane, but send your ABBA by Cab; Thiefrow baggage handlers will no doubt divert your luggage to Bengaluru whilst Bangalore was clearly your predestination. Never specify Bangor due to disambiguation.When in Rome, do as Genesis. You have a Roma Pass to try and collect on that pint that Phil Collins owes you.
That's no music in me caravan, it's just starting to hum because I got a lump of sumtang carbon credit for a second home. Like all those G8 MP3s on 45s, I call them B-sides; it was put up or shut up, mine would NOT shush, and now we got to put our money where his mouth was. Next time I holiday, I'm flying on a Virgin.
"I try to sleep, they're wide awake, they wont leave me alone.
They dont get paid to take vacations, or let me alone.
They spy on me, I try to hide, they won't let me alone.
They persecute me, they're the judge and jury all in one"
I have just the plunder you're in search to get your excise, agent Snarky. It's by an artist I'm sure will be pleased to get his come uppence, named Ben Dover. That may be Sir Ben Dover to you; he's been knighted I think.
No offence intended.
more mess
i'm not an expert or anything, nor have i taken the time or concern to figure out any other method... but it seems like they could go at it from their end rather than our end. they made blank cassette tapes for both music and vhs, and this was lawful. we used these products to record information in many different ways. then everything went digital. come on, guys, this is ur business model, it fails and u attack ur customer? pftthankfully, i'm not really a big media (music or movie) fan. mostly propaganda for this group's plight or that person's goal, anyway.
btw, we should all learn something from everything, be it fiction (fairy-tale) or non-fiction.
ewe people
@John - Lyrics
For those who do not know, the song, "The Marching Song of the Covert Battalions", comes from Billy Bragg's 1990 album, "The Internationale". If you agree with the song's lyrics, then left-wing politics (those who strongly favor egalitarianism, progressive social policy, and multiculturalism) may be more to your liking than right-wing politics (those who strongly favor the maintenance of traditionally selected leaders, protection of traditional institutions from government regulation, and the promotion of one culture as superior to all others).Trojan horse
This is about the state having the ability to search your electronics at any time for any reason under the guise of looking for MP3'sThat it makes the RIAA Happy is a bonus.
If only...
If only there was a way to stop this.Something like organizing a protest where a crowd of girls rip off their tops to reveal the words "NO, YOU CAN'T SEARCH MY SOFTWARE, ACTA!" painted across the top halves of their "chest areas"...
Naw, that probably wouldn't work.
Well, maybe...
Good plan
This would certainly help organised crime, instead of people buying a CD on vacation in asia and such they'll have to buy it on the street from an official tied-in criminal that's part of the mob if they want it cheap or if they don't want to support the largest gang of scammers AKA media companies.Wonderful (assuming you are in said mob).
Incidentally, when people hum a song they use breathing air, should the air not be DRM'ed and licensed?
More reason to wardrive
> ISPs will be forced to hand over personal information on any alleged copyright infringers without any actual proof being needed.This is why you should never pay for Internet access.
Spaghetti-lobbying
Proposed by the USA? WTF? Just another indication that the Mafia and their undead army of corrupt lawyers has taken over that once glorious country. What a shame.STOP WHINING.
What a bunch of hypocrites. If it were your intellectual property - you'd be whining and crying FOR the police to do something. Theres no new laws here, just an ENFORCEMENT that could have taken place a long time ago and got us all used to stealing property that doesnt belong to us.Stop whining, and stop thieving music and you'll have nothing to worry about.
When was the last time it was ok for you not to get paid for your lifes work?
Blowing up the world
Next Tuesday is bad for me could you make it Thursday.@Kalvin...
Oh, sod-off...Lets beat'em at thier own game
so i got this new File Encryption software called nokVAULT, no joke it totally hides all my music and movies that I encrypt. Apparently my windows operating system doesnt even detect them when I close my vault. So it really doesnt matter who the heck checks my laptop and when because all my files are invisible. Only i know they are there, no one will ever know what I hide in my laptop.Kewl.