Intel’s budgie E7200 vs. the X3 8750
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TWEAKTOWN IS EVALUATING the goodness of Intel’s Core 2 Duo E7200, the lowliest Penryn of the bunch. To provide readers with something to measure by, Cameron used a Phenom X3 8750 as a comparison in tests. In case you were wondering, it does have all the architecture advantages of other Penryns, only slightly capped – less cache, slower FSB – but nothing that will hold it back against the Phenom, show the numbers. The E7200 systematically beats the X3 8750, right here.
DDR2-1200 is within the grasp of the most hardcore (and cash-laden) enthusiasts. Gary at Anandtechies has picked up a couple of OCZ Flex II DIMMs and produced some benchmarks, proving that their greatest virtue is to offer flexible memory timings for a wider range of boards, or plain ol’ kickass performance at 1200MHz. That’s pretty much a fact of life these days, you have to pick your memory carefully, making sure it’s SPD ratings will be more or less in sync with your CPU's requirements, or your own operating settings. Catch it here.
Yesterday we talked about Legion Hardware’s review of the Asus HD 3850 X2 graphics card. Well, it seems the PR boys were on overtime last week, as PC Perspective has published its own review of the card. Stripped bare, you can look at a few more details, like the heatsink and PCB layout, which mimics the HD 3870 X2. It also looks like the benchmarks are putting the HD 3850 X2 on a level playing field with the 9800GTX – the only serious difference being, naturally, the (about) 80 bucks extra the 3850X2 costs over the 9800GTX. If you’re building a system the 3850 X2 looks like a decent candidate, if you’re just upgrading, bear in mind that you’re stuck on the chipset you already have and need to pick wisely. Read the review here.
Slotting hard drives like USB pens is quite possible, especially if you’re using Vantec’s Nexstar eSATA/USB HD Dock. Just plug this little peripheral into your computer’s eSATA or USB 2.0 port and your SATA HD becomes a removable drive on the spot. Good for us geeks who have a pile of HDs hanging around and need to check them for content every so often (we imagine you won’t carry this around on a trip abroad). You can find the review at Future Looks.
Bit-Tech has a review of Jetway’s JNC62K mobo. It’s a mini-ITX sized, Geforce 8200-based mobo that targets low power/HTPC builds. It really is a nice piece of work, especially in the power-consumption department and IGP performance takes the lead over 780G. Since this is mini-ITX, space constraints have limited expansion capacity, especially PCI and DIMM slots (limiting memory to one slot and therefore, one channel). You can read about it here. µ

Comments
8750 X4?
*eherm* I hate to sound like a smart aleck but the Phenom 8750 is a Tri-core, not a Quad. (Brain fart perhaps?) They even state that in their article. However I wouldn't be surprised in the least if it beats a Quad Phenom.8750
The 8750 is not X4 but X3Jeezzz...
That TweakTown article is crap, to put it simple. I'm not disputing the tests, but the tone is up Intel's ass soooo much...It says, "AMD gets a pounding from new E7200"... yeah, a pounding of less than 1% in some areas, and the rest under 5% or so.
And the graphs look like the advantage is huge, untill you look at the numbers.
Freaking marketing bullspin :P
LoL
Have to agree, the graphs make it look like there are 50 trillion point gaps, when the numbers are tiny.The biggest gap was on the memory tests and they made a large gap look like the ones and twos on the other tests.
Glad i am not the only one to have seen through this intel rubbish.
TurkeyTown
You always know instantly when an author is trying to skew results to satisfy their own agenda when they don't start the X axis at zero. Even when looking at the numbers the graph pictures tell your brain der... Intel is twice as fast cos the line is twice as long der.... pillocksNo bias here guv
The cut off on those graphs is ridiculous at some points...And its a fairly done deal that comparing an Intel cpu with a higher clock speed versus an AMD cpu in single threaded tests is going to go in Intels favour. They could have at least thrown in one multithreaded test to give AMD a chance.
heh
You guys really should not link to articles where the graphs don't start at 0 on the x axis.Shut up amd fanboys.
Assuming the numbers are all genuine, Intel really does have a hell of a lead here.When you consider the AMD chip has 50% more cores than the Intel one, yet the Intel one beat it in every benchmark they put them through... that makes the Intel chip undeniably faster by a pretty significant amount.
Sure, it's douchbaggish of them to screw with the perspective of the bars in the graphs like that - but the numbers still don't lie.
2 cores beating out 3 could be thought of as someone driving a car with a 2.0liter 4 cylinder winning a race to someone driving a 3.0l 6 cylinder. Either that's a really awesome 4-banger, or the 6cyl is a POS.
Plus; anyone noticing the BF2142 numbers? That's a lot more than 5%. That's more like a 15% lead for Intel. Go Penryn!
Honestly, could you be more Intel sided?!
Aside from the fact it's also a different chipset used in the 'benchmark' the numbers are as discussed above so close that the graphs should just have a big tick and a cross on them to make people think that AMD is bad, mmkay.Bar Charts
Clipping bar chart tops has always been a pet peeve of mine, but it creates much more drama (and reader response). A 1-5% perf difference is a yawner in anybody's world. Gotta tip the hat to AMD marketing for earning their money eeching out some sales with a cool name.but what are the facts?
Given that the two processors are equivalent in performance, and that one is over $70 cheaper than the other right now based on Google search (hint: E7200), which would you choose?Ohhhhh... I see. You are going to "support AMD".
Big wins?
I'm glad I'm no the only person who saw how close the scores were all around.4-12fps in every game
a couple of seconds on timed tests.
It makes you wonder.
I agree.
I agree 100%I was shocked and appauled when I read that article, they made a tiny percentage into a giant leap of performance loss through them graphs.
Really does grind my grain when I see people distort the truth, or pick a side in what should be an unbiased test.
And the INQ's portrayel of the test seems very misleading too. Have they read the graphs correctly?
Hmm.
Vantage does X2 Cards as Twice Score.
For those clever Peepers with Raptor Accuracy, this is already old news. Yet Vantage Score on ----X2 dual GPU Game Card add scores of each GPU together. Scores are quite impresive.So much for Synthetic Test, how about Field?
drashek
Tweaktown bought and paid for
The article speaks for itself (apparently if you lose a benchmark by a few % it's a POUNDING...ROFL...Intel pays how much for this?). I'd say they worry about MS money also. I repeatedly emailed them asking for XP64 vs. Vista benchmarks (since they showed XP32 DOMINATING Vista, but didn't comment at all about it in the 9800gx2 review) and they never responded. Multiple people mailed (editor/reviewer etc), no response at all. Of course, I can't even get Anandtech to bite on this so I guess everyone is afraid of MS ads being pulled. Every part I own has an XP64 driver (all current vid cards, chipsets, network cards (even my Edimax wireless N card) etc are supported) so why not benchmark this OS? It's our only option above 4GB, well, to me Vista is NOT an option...LOL. Linux is NOT an option either until I can game on it. :)TweakTown has become part of the Intel PR department
I've slammed them for this before. They use graphs that accentuate 1% difference and make it look like its huge.They manipulate date constantly at tweaktown, and are NOT to be trusted under any circumstances. And I Like Intel.....
tweaktown is phreaktown. Liars and cheats
Tuck your tails
I have to agree that when you look at the graphs the difference between the two CPU's seems enormous when it is only a couple of points. BUT, when you also take into account this is an entry level dual core Penryn CPU vs. the top model of triple core Phenom, then I would have to agree that AMD has taken a pounding. There's more to a beat down that just a graph or number, you make take all accounts into consideration. I own boxes with both AMD and Intel CPU's and seeing how I am not loyal to a CPU maker but whomever offers the best bang for the buck at the time I need something new gets my money which is why I have both. Read the article for what it is.