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Military robot kills without compunction

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THE ISRAELI ARMY is showing off a new battlefield-ready robot which will carry machine guns into places too dangerous for humans.

Dubbed the 'Guardium', the four-wheeled robot will be operated from a centre which looks like a video games console well away from the front line.

It comes equipped with cameras, night-vision equipment and sensors, as well as weapons like machine guns. Philp Pullman describes it here.

What is perhaps more scary is that it has a few programmes that will allow it to operate on its own following preprogrammed routes, it can patrol along a barrier fence or make its way through a city without having to phone home.

G-Nius Unmanned Ground Systems, which built the beast, said it made it ideal for armies whose troops were used to taking casualties from roadside bombs.

The control system, which is similar to a Playstation, runs into several million dollars and each bot costs about $600,000.

The Israelis are refusing to say when the Guardium will be in service if ever. However analysts at military think tank Globalsecurity.org, told the Chicago Sun Times that they represent the way that modern warfare is going. You can get them to advance without fear, and they kill without compunction.

And if it does get blown to bits by 'friendly fire' you don’t have to write a letter to its parents to tell them. µ

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Comments

Cost too Much to Save Lives.

One good thing about Humans is Focusable Eyes. People Like Machine Guns because they have Ratta-TaT-Tat sound that is like typewriter or industrial age. Mainly its Hurl of Metal that makes aiming less precise, yet in one burst, More likely to hit stuff aimed at. One at Time is NOT in line with Mass Societies Demands.

However, at $600,000.00 Each, Soldier is Worth Less Than One Machine( given unlikelyhood of any death benifits). Plus Living Soldier Has Fast near 180* vision for quick respone to Sound or Movement. Its Soul Man Out There that Gets Em.
drashek of soule
posted by : Gunner, 31 January 2008

Rise of the machines

> And if it does get blown to bits by 'friendly fire'
> you don’t have to write a letter to its parents to
> tell them.

Well, you can argue that the ones who created the beast are its true parents. Don't they deserve to be informed of an untimely death?

They might also be responsible if an underaged robot starts using alcoholic beverages or starts shooting without proper warning.

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Greetings Bertho
posted by : Bertho, 30 April 2008

Robots controlled by computers eh

Hmm sounds familiar im sure i've seen an abundance of movies with the same topic, I wonder how many spotty teenagers they have controlling these things. Well i suppose it would give the papers something to write about '13yr Old Kills whilst gaming'. Just dont tell Jack Thompson!
posted by : bu5hhead, 30 April 2008

A bit too expensive

AFAIK, the maximum compensation payable to UK soldiers wounded in the service of their country is £285,000. Dunno what other countries pay out, but it's still likely to be less than $600,000, and at that rate it'll be cheaper for the military to stick with using people.

Of course, on the other hand, government would sooner give taxpayer's money to industry rather than pay it back in wages, so perhaps the TCO isn't that much greater in the end.
posted by : LeeE, 30 April 2008

It's a start

Not bad for a first-gen Terminator.
posted by : Luke, 30 April 2008

Don't speak about it

Don't tell the SKYNET MOD department as I hear they're looking for a mobile robot for some reason...


You think I'm joking don't you?
posted by : Stuart Halliday, 30 April 2008

PS3

Resembles a playstation and costs $600,000. So, it resembles the playstation in both looks and price.
posted by : mat, 30 April 2008

It would be much more cost effective

to just convince fighters that they'll go straight to heaven and get 72 virgins if they die in battle. Sure, you may find the rampant cousin marriage necessary to create the required quantity of inbred imbeciles to be distasteful but such armies did wipe out the Byzantines.
posted by : Matamoros, 30 April 2008

Guardium

I've just realised how they came up with this name; it's a mixture of Guardian and Golem, the Jewish mythical monster that sought out the enemies of the Jewish people. It was brainless and somewhat evil, and would do whatever actions it was programmed. That's a somewhat scary thought.
posted by : Nikalin, 30 April 2008

huh?

Isn't £285,000 about 565,000 $ ???????????????

Add in a few years salary, and a blown up bot is cheaper than a blown up dude. Plus a mechanic can fix or re-use parts, they don't turn green if you let them sit a while.
posted by : Bounty, 01 February 2008

Step Up

Perhaps the gentlemen who thinks it is too much money for this machine,should step up to the line with the rifle. And when your next of kin gets the letter, the payment should be, Say $50.00. Because that is the price tou are putting our armed forces with your comments.
posted by : Thunder, 30 April 2008

Not that good an idea, IMO

The IDF doesn't fight wars in the conventional sense, most of the time its an occupation force. These things would be very efficient at tasks like enforcing a curfew or other no-go areas. Send a few into Northern Gaza, for example, to roam around.

Its one of those bright ideas that sounds great on paper. But -- autonomous doesn't mean smart. I reckon it would be really easy to capture, especially in an urban situation, and I would expect that if it were allowed out without human oversight then some crafty local will figure out how to attach something like a bomb to it as a present for its handlers -- it will come trundling home like the dumb dog in the urban legend bearing the stick of dynamite.
posted by : Martin, 30 April 2008

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posted by : Karlsbad, 30 April 2008

The first Jewish Golem?

An protective automaton made out of inanimate matter.
"In many tales the Golem is inscribed with magic or religious words that keep it animated. Writing one of the names of God on its forehead, a slip of paper in its mouth, or enscribed on its body, or writing the word Emet (אמת,"truth" in the Hebrew language) on its forehead are examples of such words. By erasing the first letter aleph in Emet to form Met (מת, "dead" in Hebrew) the golem could be deactivated. Another way is by writing a specific incantation in the owner's blood on calfskin parchment, and placing it in the mouth. Removing the parchment will deactivate the golem. It is likely that this is the same incantation that the Rabbi recites in the classic narrative. Golems also need to rest on the Sabbath lest they go berserk."
posted by : Nemo, 30 April 2008

Excellent Idea

Folks - these things are made for flushing em' out - they are likely able to laid down a phalanx type wall of lead that will obliterate most anything - but that is not the best part - think broadly - compliment them with drones and apache attach helicopters and u are set to nuke and pave just about anything - send in your troops to 'clean up' the fools who decide to stay behind and you will have covered off most of your troubles - zone to zone combat......
posted by : Anton, 01 May 2008

surprisingly comprehensible

Is it just me or did Mr. Thomas von Drashek's comment actually make sense? Suer, the grammar and syntax are mangled nearly beyond repair, but I was able to actually understand what he meant! Or maybe prolonged exposure to TvD leads to insanity...
posted by : Toasty, 01 February 2008

Bots ARE cost effective

When conssidering the ROI. Don't just count the death benefits.

Humans have to be fed, clothed, trained (and re-trained).

It costs around $250,000 U.S. to properly train an American soldier.

We have swords operating VERY effectively right now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foster-Miller_TALON#SWORDS

D

posted by : Dj, 01 May 2008

Life is cheap

Just got a lot easier to kill Palestinians.
posted by : Ron, 02 May 2008

Nothing can go wrong

Luckily none of these robots could ever be stolen, or find its way into the "wrong hands".

If it did, though, it might make a suicide bomber look like a cup of tea. Imagine one of those babies rolling through a crowded city centre blazing away in all directions. (I assume they're armour-plated, so couldn't be knocked out by anything less than an RPG).

That's one of the worst things about applied violence - it'[s so difficult to keep a monopoly on it. You develop nuclear weapons to kill bad people, and next thing you know the bad people get them. What to do then?
posted by : Tom Welsh, 02 May 2008
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