Microsoft wants to freeze the Vista incapable lawsuit
Hang on, wait till everyone forgets
EVER SLIPPERY, Microsoft asked that the "Vista Capable" lawsuit against it be stayed while it appeals the judge's approval of class action standing for the case.
The lawsuit, filed almost a year ago, claims that Microsoft misled punters in late 2006 by letting PC makers stick "Vista Capable" labels on lower power machines sold with Windows XP that were later found capable of running only the Home Basic version of Windows Vista rather than the full version that includes most of Vista's new features including the Aero eye-candy graphical interface.
It claims that PC buyers paid more for those machines than they would have parted with had they known that they wouldn't be able to support Windows Vista when that was released a few months later in early 2007.
Never mind that those PC consumers who bought "Vista Capable" machines are likely better off sticking with Windows XP instead of "upgrading" to Vista, seeing as how Vista has turned out to be even more of a pig on qualudes than all prior versions of Windows. The Vole probably won't be arguing that, but even if it did, that wouldn't let it off the hook for having misled customers who expected that "Vista Capable" actually meant "Vista Ready" when they coughed up the readies.
US District Judge Marsha Pechman granted the lawsuit class action status two weeks ago. Microsoft filed a petition to appeal that ruling with the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals on Friday, a day after it filed a motion before Judge Pechman to stay the lawsuit pending its appeal.
If the case is stayed, that would put off any further discovery by the plaintiffs until the appeal is decided, which could take up to three months or more. The delay would postpone additional revelations of potentially embarrassing emails and other documents by Microsoft and PC manufacturers, hardware suppliers such as Intel, and wholesalers and retailers.
Release of internal company emails last month disclosed that high level Microsoft executives anticipated the problems caused by the "Vista Capable" labels on PCs sold with Windows XP. Microsoft's OEM partners warned the company that the labels would confuse consumers, and even Microsoft's own executives got burned by buying PCs incapable of running the full version of Windows Vista.
In its motion to stay, Microsoft wrote: "Continued proceedings here would cost Microsoft a substantial sum of money for discovery and divert key personnel from full-time tasks...; would intrude on sensitive pricing decisions and strategies by OEMs, wholesalers, and retailers; and would jeopardize Microsoft's goodwill with class members -- all with respect to claims that might not proceed on a class basis at all."
Microsoft argued that, if its appeal is successful, any time and money it spends on additional discovery will have been wasted and any further negative publicity will have been raised unnecessarily. It also claimed that continuing discovery while its appeal is pending might needlessly impair certain business partner relationships.
"Plaintiffs' discovery almost surely will involve intrusion into the most sensitive pricing decisions of the OEMs, wholesalers, and retailers who sell the PCs at issue and set their prices," Microsoft wrote. "Continued discovery thus will disrupt Microsoft's relationships with its business partners, a disruption that will be unnecessary if the Ninth Circuit reverses."
The motion also raised the issue that continuing the lawsuit pending the appeal will require the plaintiffs to advertise nationally for class members to join the litigation, and that the class action search could damage Microsoft's reputation with its customers unfairly. "The result will be nationwide publicity that impugns the ['Vista Capable'] program," it said.
With typical Microsoft chutzpah, the appeal to the Ninth Circuit challenges Judge Pechman's basing her approval of class action standing on Washington state law because Microsoft is headquartered there. It also questions her approval of the plaintiff's theory that PC buyers might have paid more for the so-called " Vista Capable" PCs than they would have without those allegedly misleading labels.
Like many defendants, the Vole is seeking delay in the hope that the passage of time might work in its favour, as "Vista Capable" PC buyers get over having been taken in, witnesses change jobs, memories fade, documents get lost, and so on.
We'll see in due time whether Judge Pechman is fully confident in her rulings and believes the plaintiffs' case deserves to move forward timely, or decides that the potential harm to Microsoft should her rulings be reversed on appeal outweighs the plaintiffs' rights. µ
L'Inq
Computerworld

Comments
In effect...
So in effect, they are asking for it to be dismissed because it will inconvience them if we see what they've been doing, it could cost them money, and it might find out they were wrong. Yeah, um... those are all good points, and we don't care. If MS screwed us over, they can't appeal the suit based on they don't want us to find out.i hope they throw the book at them
More misleading by microsoft naughty naughty.i hope they give them a good spanking for this one since they have done nothing about the defunct o/s itself know as Fista (so named as once you use it you find it feels like you have been fisted in the arse for the past week and dont feel like sitting anymore).
All this Ready and Capable shinanigans is a load of tosh because they essentialy mean the same thing in computing terms.
Microsoft and the law
Continued proceedings here would cost Microsoft a substantial sum of money for discovery and divert key personnel from full-time tasks...Like, who cares what it costs Microsoft, they have more money than God, problem is, it's all in U.S. dollars, which aren't worth much these days.... :(
As far as diverting key personnel from full-time tasks, maybe that would be in Microsoft's favor, it would keep those "key" people from coming up with crap like MeII. I say, the more you can keep Microsofties distracted, the better for the universe in general!
What?
"and that the class action search could damage Microsoft's reputation with its customers unfairly"What reputation?? They're having a laugh surely.
History repeats
They use to whip the sinful...They Should Have Read TheInquirer
While lower quality machines may have sold for Premium, its' OEM that made that decision.In Fact there were NO Ultimate Ready Machines for Retail for near year from retail Ultimate release.Anyone who reads theinquirer.org knew this, so it seems BIG Subject, yet its' Hardware issue. Certainly cost of XP disc is NO more than Vista disc in manufacturering & code is good in both. THERE IS NO REASON MICROSOFT WOULD DECIEVE PUBLIC INTO BUYING WRONG COMPUTER.
thomas drashek
Lame defense...
So MS defense is "If you make the suit "class action" we will have to slow down on making cool stuff for you."Sorry MS, I like you guys but thats stupid. My answer is, you should have thought of that before helping Intel with their bottom line.
PC's
PC's what about things like $600+ video cards. My top of the line video card for the time will only run the basic aswell and it is worth more then some PC's. It came with a nice big " Built for Microsoft* Windows Vista" sticker on the box. I can only guess Nvidia was either lied to or is in on the scam aswell.Microsoft will Win!
I find this funny as i know microsoft had 2 verison of this "vista capable". they were called "vista Capable ready" and "vista premium ready" as you can see capable means basic will work and premium means it can run premium. if they got their hopes up thinking it could run Aero i am pretty sure that was the salemans not microsoft.re: Microsoft will win.
I find it funny that you can sit there and defend them for this. The "Vista Capable ready" and "Vista premium ready" were NEVER mentioned early on. All of the information pertaining to it was modified to how it reads now; not then.Get a clue and get your facts straight.
hi
it would be interesting if the plaintiffs won the case. That would mean 'unlmited internet' providers with caps could probably be successfully sued too...