AMD HD3800 pricing shock follows down-clock call
Clock brings pricing down
AMD HOSTED a bunch of NDA press briefings last week in Munich, Milano, London. Since the INQ is traditionally not invited to NDA bashes, we were left out in the cold.
This is what AMD has in store, as far as graphics is concerned.
Phenom pricing details were disclosed earlier by no other than AMD's master distributor, an ASBIS spin-off called ISA Hardware. The 790FX is not interesting since it is already selling in stores.
The interesting part is Daamit's answer to Nvidia's GeForce 8800GT and revamped GTS, the Radeons HD 3850, 3870 and 3870 X2 (R680).
The R680 is the only part planned for next year (January), but we would not be surprised if it appears as a Yuletide present to the hardware community.
The HD 3850 will exist primarily as a 256MB part, while the 3870 will bring 512MB to the table. Some 3850 parts may come with 512MB and some 3870 parts with 1GB of memory -for 20 and 50 USD/EUR above current asking price.
Pricing for both launch parts is very aggressive, and AMD claims it is all due to 55nm process working like a clockwork and achieving excellent yields. Radeon HD 3850 should retail for between $149 to 179 (USD), while 3870 should be between 200 to 230. This is brilliant pricing, going way below 8800GT.
The real truth is that AMD started running into clocking walls (with a selected heatsink-fan combo) and again decided to crash the prices instead of gunning for a better cooling setup that will enable those 800 MHz+ clocks we saw earlier in development.
AMD is touting DirectX 10.1, UVD and PowerPlay checkbox features as key features for selling the RV670 chips.
It remains to be seen why AMD clocked down the parts, so that performance parity with 8800GT is established. Whoever is on Nvidia's or Intel's payrole inside AMD, we have to congratulate that person on a job well done.
This is what will sell as Radeon HD 3850:
- 55nm RV670PRO GPU at 668 MHz (why not 666?)
- 256MB GDDR3 memory at 828 MHz DDR (1.66 GT(/s)
- 10.69 GPixel/s fillrate
- 52.99 GB/s memory bandwidth
- 320 Unified Stream Processors
- 24x Custom Filter Anti-Aliasing support
- ATI Avivo HD
- ATI PowerPlay power saving technology
- Game Physics processing capability (this belongs to fairy tale land, but you know – marketing...)
- HDMI support
As far as higher performing part, the 3870 is considered, specs are following:
- 55nm RV670XT GPU clocked to 775 MHz
- 512MB GDDR4 memory clocked at 1.2 GHz DDR (2.4 GT/s)
- 12.40 GPixel/s fill-rate
- 76.80 GB/s memory bandwidth
- 320 Unified Stream Processors
- 24x Custom Filter Anti-Aliasing support
- 55nm process
- ATI Avivo HD
- ATI PowerPlay power saving technology
- Game Physics processing capability
- HDMI support
These will go on sale on November 19th or a little bit earlier. µ

Comments
Hm?
Nov 19? Thought this was a january release. Can someone back up this release date with another source? I want to sell my 2900 before the release so i can get high money on it. :Pmath
828 MHz DDR is 1.56 GT/smath is correct
828 * 2 = 1.656 which rounds up to 1.66,Thanks for your math lesson commenter.
Math ... thank you, come again.
Miki ... try again.no your wrong
828*2= 1656 or 1.656 or 1.66 rounded~Nov. 19 is right.
@ Fizzy: From every source that I have seen recently, it appears that these GPUs will be coming out, more or less, 2 days after crysis. I don't have any sources on hand right now, but it basically been widely accepted.lol
u r such a math genius, miki...Maths Miki?
1.56 is 2x 780. This is 2x 828 which is 1656Math is exercise for the mind
1.656 =~1.66Anyhoo, pricing is irrelevant without the performance numbers.
Performance
the 3870 its cheaper than the 8800GT but how about performance?Will it be toe-to-toe with 8800GT or will it be like a 2900?
Math ?
828 times 2 equals 1,56 ? Damn I thought I was stupid for thinking that 8+8 is 16 and 28+28 is 56 as in 1656 (1,66 Rounded GT/s)Way below 8800gt prices?
The MSRP for a 512 meg 8800GT is 250$, i picked mine up for 240$ launch day, i hardly think a 10$ difference can be called "brilliant pricing, going way below 8800GT."OEM's?
"It remains to be seen why AMD clocked down the parts, so that performance parity with 8800GT is established."NVidia has a host of OEM's: PNY, eVGA, Asus, MSI, etc. Does not AMD have OEM's that can improve on the reference design in order to add water-cooling? WC is terrifically more efficient...
@ Fizzy
Fizzy, I think you're too late. You should have sold your 2900 before 8800 GT came out. News of GT’s performance/price and launch date was circulating the net before it was actually released. You won't get much money for it now. Still, 8800 GTs are out of stock, and 3000s aren't out yet, so selling it now is better than waiting until after Nov 19th. After the 19th (or around that date) you’ll get next to nothing for you 2900.And I’m convinced myself that the 19th (or near that date) is going to be hard launch.
Is my mobo compatible with it?
I have a K8N Neo4 MSI motherboardI wanna but the new Radeon card but I don't know if it's compatible with my motherbaord or not because it's Pcie v.2
and I can't seem to find what version mine is
it only says PCIE X16
should I but the card?