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Blu-Ray DRM stuffs up play back

They never learn

TWO Blu-ray versions of Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer' and Day After Tomorrow flicks, which were released last week, have playback problems caused by their DRM.

According to highdefdigest.com, the DRM on the disks, from Fox Home Entertainment, does not like some players.

Samsung's BDP-1200 and LG's BH100 cannot play the disks at all while the BDP-1000 give error messages and playback stutter.

The same disks play fine on all other Blu-ray players, including the PlayStation 3, although users have reported lengthy load times of up to two minutes.

At the heart of the problem is the BD+ copy protection that the two disks use.

Samsung is issuing a firmware update within "a couple" weeks and LG said an update is expected in 3-4 days. µ

Comments

they had it coming

Way to show those pirates they messed with the wrong company... that'll teach em!... eerrrrr...
posted by : d_neck, 05 October 2007

Get the facts straight...

The issue with the discs has little to zero to do with DRM. BD+ is not the issue and has been refuted by BD insiders...

It's the BD-J causing the problem(s).

Check your sources before reporting, please.
posted by : TruthSayer, 05 October 2007

Load times on BDR

What gives with the load times on Blu-ray titles? I set up a Blu-ray player the other day, a new Sony model (BDP-S300) and it came with Spiderman 3. Cool, right? Well, get this - between pushing the on button and seeing the Blu-ray player logo on screen took about 40 seconds. Putting Spidey 3 in produced a loading screen with a horizontal bar which takes at least two minutes. Then there's another Spiderman 3 loading screen and that takes at least two and a half minutes. That's over 5 minutes just from pushing the play button to only get to the top menu.

Yet one more reason to stick with DVDs, or better yet online content.
posted by : Daza, 05 October 2007

Failing sales...

And they wonder why consumers are staying away from 'next-gen' HD technologies...
posted by : Daniel Chambers, 05 October 2007

Dear TruthSayer

Firstly, I have to say that I instantly disbelieve anything written by a person who decides to call themselves TruthSayer or similar. This is because years of careful observation and scientific research have led me to conclude that these people are invariably full of shit. I believe that deep down they realise that they lack the subtlety and experience to bullshit in a convincing fashion and so choose names like "VoiceOfReason" or "SwordOfTruth" in a pathetic attempt to compensate.

Secondly, you mention that the issue has been refuted by "insiders". There is no mention of this in the original article or indeed anywhere else. I suspect that the sole point of this particular sentence is to imply that you are also an insider or connected to them. In other words you wish us to believe that you too are one of the big boys. In reality "fourteen year old boy" is probably closer to the truth. If only there were some worthwhile PS3 games to occupy your time we may have been spared your opinions.

On a purely technical level, you may be unaware that these two discs are by no means the first titles to use BD-J, making your theory unlikely. Also, I believe that BD+ DRM relies on the Java VM that is BD-J and that as such your theory doesn't even make sense. I would look this up to confirm, but it's a lot of effort to go to just to troll you properly.

Finally, your suggestion that The Inquirer would ever stoop to checking its sources before reporting is scandalous and I believe you owe them an apology.
posted by : JD, 05 October 2007

Not quite Correct

While i have no love for DRM, the cause of the issues in this case is not DRM related BD+ from fox ,but as said above its a BD-J issue which will be fixed via firmware soon. In samsungs case this wont be the first time java has caused issues for there players.

Load times on both formats are pretty slow but recent java loaded BD titles have been ultra slow, newer SoC based chipsets will speed up the load times to get them as fast as the PS3. Sharp will soon have a player that can load in 10secs, price of being an early adopter sadly.
I own both formats but would rather Blue ray took the crown

as for this being a Java issue, you can find the info on the blu ray forum.
posted by : G, 06 October 2007

Typical Sony

If Sony had gone along with HDi (as HD-DVD has) none of this would be an issue. From Wikipedia: "At the end of June 2005, Sun announced that the Blu-ray Association had chosen the Java-based BD-J interactivity layer instead of Microsoft's HDi. This was based on a BDA board vote favouring BD-J 10 to 4, despite a technical committee previously favouring HDi by a vote of 7 to 5".

Once again Sony has decided to do what they wanted regardless of everyone elses opinion and loook what's happened.
posted by : Carl Britton, 27 November 2007
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