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A TEST FROM an independent claimed that quad core AMD Opterons use up to 41 per cent less power than similarly configured Xeon servers.
Neal Nelson’s Benchmark Laboratory kitted up test servers using 4GB, 8GB and 16GB memory sizes.
The tests seem to show that FB-DIMMs consume more power than DDR-II modules on the AMD servers. They use Nelson’s own Power Efficiency Benchmark, which he said is a client server test with 500 web users from 32 separate computers feed transactions to a server running Apache 2, MySQL database, and the SuSE Linux Enterprise OS.
The tests aren’t sponsored by external firms, Nelson said. He added: “I am certain that these test results are correct. I am so certain that I have begun to offer my customers a money back guarantee if their real world experiences do not agree with my benchmark data.” µ
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So it's the memory that consumes more power.... not the cpu?
All the power efficiency in the world won't make it faster than Intel.
as long as you want to pay more money for less performance.
I work for Intel - for another opinion - look here: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=956
Intel ApparatchNick
I LOVE 'IntelApparatchNick'!!! Brilliant! By the way - not all Intel based servers use FB-DIMM - some use DDR2. Intel's latest 45nm Xeon processors are even more power efficient and even faster that the 2006 CPU's used in this claim. If you want industry standard power efficiency benchmarks, look here: http://www.spec.org/power_ssj2008/results/res2007q4/
These days people pay to get the most expensive and best processor, without actually needing it. Personally, I think it's a great thing if these tests are accurate, I would go for a product that I spend less on each month, which more than likely also gives me more than enough performance for what I use it for. Games included. I play in 1248*1024 so paying top of the line for everything is a complete and utter waste of money and power.
the link to the power consumption summary is here http://www.worlds-fastest.com/wf3400.html
FB-DIMMs consume A LOT of power. It's around 10 Watts per DIMM. There's nothing new, here.
When it comes to clock to clock ticks on real server benches....AMD wins.... And consumes less power. Linux shows the real numbers, not Windows, Windows is a dumb OS, anybody knows that.
AMD needs to release the amazing Quad-collumn abacus. Based on 45-bead architecture. It uses an amazing 0.00 Watts!!! I think it will sell millions.
And a watch is more power efficent than a laptop, a watch is still totally unable to do the workload that a laptop can do, you got the same issue here!
Who cares how much energy the cpu draw from the grid? As if we use an efficient cpu, we can save the polar bears? I personally won't change a cpu just because i want to keep my energy bill down. i probably spent more on cpu than able to save on energy.
It uses 45% less power and how much percent less performance? Regardless of the CPU, a turned off computer uses 100% less power, if you don't care about the performance!
I guess it wasn't pointed out that they were comparing a processor that wasn't released (from AMD), to older, 65nm Intel chips.... Instead of their newer processors. It's a shame that it's come down to power consumption, rather than performance anyway.
"If your real world experience with one-year-old Xeons versus Barcelona that AREN'T EVEN BEING SOLD YET, I'll give you your money back." Fish n' rat smells abound at this "independent tester". So what if he's not on the AMD payroll (even that's in doubt...)?
Neal Nelson is the only lab in the entire world that claims AMD machines to be more power efficient, they always have, they always will. Their tests are always paid for by AMD. Their hardware is always provided by AMD. So essentially, they are an indpendent mercenary--or a paid pumper. How come they never test Penryn?
yep, as the title, why ZDNet. I personally dont like anything from ZDNet because it's the advertising tool for M$ so it's usually tyrant biased. Let's see what does one of its blogger say about herself: "an unblinkin' eye on M$"; WTF anyone feels sick? back to the test. the owner said that he did review 2 IDENTICAL servers. not 2 top of the line servers. Does it make any sense at all?
I wonder why the benchmarks were strictly I/O task -based. Could it be that it might mask the DDR2 platform's tendency to fall behind in performance compared to FB memory when the thread counts climb? This looks more to do with the RAM than anything else. Energy gobbling FB-DIMMs have their place. Smart system architects will know the difference and will choose accordingly.
Not even a semiprofessionell would ever dare to present his results like that. Ok...the AMD fanbois would not even think about it, because somebody says AMD is cool, but... If somebody makes a benchmark the whole setup should be listed. This way you do not know, if he forgot the coffee machine swithed on or not. There are many ways to proove somthing, but this is the dumbest I have ever seen (in 35 years he has not learned anything about copyright notices either)
Even twice slower and twice the price, I will always buy AMD. Intel is a predator
Does it perform 41% less as well ? Because it sure as heck isn't as fast. TPM is not a relevant measure to me. I just want to know about FPS. And in FPS, I'm sorry but it's Intel that takes the cake right now. AMD, I loved your Athlon and your XP, but I'm just not interested in power efficiency if it means your product gives me less FPS. I'm a gamer. For two hours a day I want all the FPS I can get. It's not like the PC is on all day anyway, so don't bash it. Besides, your widescreen TV probably burns as much power as my PC does.
If it takes 45nm Intel to beat 65nm AMD on power efficiency then what does that say about Intel ? ;-)
Um you guys, can't you read? AMD uses less power for the same performance. This is true even for a desktop setup... Yes, it is true that Intel is faster clock for clock than AMD. But an AMD system uses less power for the same performance... AnIntel 2400 Ghz system is more power hungry than an AMD 2600 Mhz system... although the performace is very similiar. Sadly some people just don't get it.
windows is dumb OS ?? ): linux is just a big store of bugs