1984 -2008

you cant escape they've renovated a walkway near the beach where i live, the work isn't complete. I noticed apart from lamp posts there is a giant pole which i can only guess a security camera will sit on top. Plus on my way to work there are LOTS of cameras, they even shout at you apparently.

Now what could you possibly

expect to see. Terrorists riding in a bus with "hezbollah" in big bright yellow letters. And so on. Call me boring or banal but if I were a terrorist travelling on a UK motorway I would seek to look inconspicuous. Go ahead, arrest me. Imagine am I right, and that you are never going to spot a terrorist on camera, what else could you do with the info? Is there any *other* reason than datamining to allow intelleigence agencies this access? A tenner for the first person to come up with a legitimate counter terrorist use of the data.

loss of data

The US are even worse than the UK when it comes to loss of data!

more errosion of basic human rights - I didnt see us the public having a say in this (cus if we did, it would have been boycotted just as quick as the national ID scheme).

Its one thing for us to monitor our own - but allowing others to monitor aswell is just taking the downright mick.